Crossing The Threshold

The whole concept of Thus Spoke Zarathustra, is about the enlightened one preeching his wisdom to his followers. It seems Zarathustra has always been past the threshold, but I suppose his crossing point may have been going into the mountain when he was thirty to work through his thoughts in solitude. When he travels to the mountains, he lives by himself except for his friends the animals, he spends ten years there thinking, I suppose this time could also be his crossing point. The problem is these points are all adressed in the first paragraph of the book making it rather unspecific.

At a later point Zarathustra remarks that there is no way of convincing the majority, or rable as he so affectionaly calls them, that his thoughts are the truth, he must find his followers and teach them. The fact that the rabble can not be convinced in essence shows that his quest has failed, however it also succeds in that he finds his followers and teaches them to prepare for the overman.

"Thus months and years passed over the solitary; but his wisdom increased and caused him pain by his abundance." This quote shows Zarathustra gaining his knowledge, and becoming so much closer to the ideal overman. If there must be a place in which he makes a great change, this is the biggest I have found. This also may represent crossing the threshold because it was difficult, and caused him pain.

Limiting Beleifs

I am currently reading "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" by Frerich Nietsche. This book is somewhat lacking in limiting beleifs. The only beleifs that could be considered limiting are: I am too wise for others/ they are not wise enough to understand by thoughts, and "My happiness has wounded me: and all sufferers shall be physicians to me!"
But if I were able to speak with Zarathustra there is nothing I could say to help him. After all his limiting beleifs are the result of crossing the threshold, and thus does not need any help in doing so.

Heroic Traits

Ben, the protaganist of The Landing, has very few heroic traits. However he does learn and grow throughout the book, even if he is only learning about music. He is reluctant to do anything like move away or perform violin, both things he wants to do, and in the end does. He is also family oriented because everything he does is for his mother. He is innocent, but to a point where nothing happens. His final trait is he is almost self sacraficing when he almost dies trying to save Henry.